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TRANSCRIPT: Horowitz on Hannity & Colmes

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David Horowitz on Hannity & Colmes

Fox News Network

Tuesday, August 8, 2006
9:30 — 9:40 pm ET (approximately)

Alan Colmes: [unclear] we have the author of a new book The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Siezed Control of the Democratic Party, David Horowitz, and author and Rolling Stone contributor Robert Dreyfuss.

David, I thought it fascinating, first of all, Hillary Clinton, David, was a Goldwater girl in 1964, and you say in the promotion for your book, “America is under attack. Its institutions and values are under daily assault. But the principal culprits are not foreign terrorists. They are influential and powerful Americans secretly stirring up disunion and disloyalty.” Do you think [unclear] Democrats are more dangerous to America than terrorists are?

David Horowitz: No, but the Democrats, being apologists for the terrorists and directing all their fire at the United States and our defenses against the terrorists, are a serious internal threat. What you have in the Lieberman campaign is the final nail in the coffin of any kind of centrist Democratic Party. This is a leftwing Democratic Party. Ned Lamont in the next phase of it will draw a huge amount of money from the Soros Shadow Party which includes MoveOn.org…

Colmes: What do you mean the Shadow Party? I mean…

Horowitz: Well, the campaign…

Colmes: You’re saying Democrats are more dangerous than terrorists. That is a ridiculous statement. Democrats are actually more dangerous, more of a threat, to our well-being than people overseas who want to kill us?

Horowitz: Well, put it this way. The terrorists wouldn’t be such a threat if it weren’t for their, the fact that in this country we have people that want us to lose this war. This is what happened in Vietnam. It’s happening again in Iraq. And it’s happening again, you have leftists now supporting Hezbollah. The reason that we went after Saddam Hussein is obvious now, isn’t it? It’s to prevent Iraq from becoming Iran.

Sean Hannity: Let me go into this. This is the whole premise of your book. What we see unfolding here tonight, what you call the Shadow Party, how, Soros and Clinton and the Sixties radicals, they now have taken over this party.

Horowitz: That’s right.

Hannity: There’s no room for any moderation in this party now.

Horowitz: No, because, the party apparatus is not important anymore. What’s important is this extra apparatus. It’s the websites, it’s the Soros billions, it’s the 527s and the 501(c)4s, and those are just IRS names for other entities that Soros controls and that includes the whole radical movement.

Hannity: Does the country know how extreme this party has become?

Horowitz: No. The country will wake up to this over time. I think the fact that Joe Lieberman, who is a very liberal Democrat, whose only sin is to have honored his commitment to defeating the terrorists in Iraq is going to be purged from this party, that’s basically what this is about.

Hannity: Robert Dreyfuss, let me go to you. I guess 90 percent isn’t quite enough for you hardcore, George Soros, MoveOn.org Democrats, that, if you don’t go the whole hundred yards there, that this is what’s going to happen. You’re going to be primary-ed, you’re going to be smeared, and you’re going to be besmirched and defeated. The fact is, there’s no room for any moderation or an alternative voice in your party. Is that how you interpret tonight?

Dreyfuss: [chuckles] You know, it’s very funny listening to David Horowitz. I don’t even know where to begin. I mean, the silliest thing in the world is the idea that the Democrats are somehow apologists for terrorists. I’d like to find one that, look, the fact is, in this election in Connecticut, the Democratic Party is simply reflecting the fact that the overwhelming number of people in this country as well as the Democratic Party in particular [unclear] think this Iraqi War…

Hannity: Richard [sic] Dreyfuss you didn’t address my question. Listen, the Democratic Party has undermined this president, called him a liar every step of the way. You are deeply, profoundly, consistently dead wrong on military issues, national security, homeland security issues, and now basically I think you’ve elected a guy that’s going to retreat in the War on Terror with the rest of the Democrats. So is that the message, is that what you’re going to project to the American people this coming November?

Dreyfuss: Look, the American people know that Iraq had nothing to do with the War on Terrorism. Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11. He wasn’t allied to al-Qaeda. It was like if Franklin Roosevelt had invaded Mexico after Pearl Harbor. That’s the fact of Iraq. It had nothing to do with Iraq.

Horowitz: That’s completely ridiculous. Saddam Hussein held international conferences for terrorists. He had them based in Iraq.

Dreyfuss: No, no, no, no. That’s nonsense.

Horowitz: And he would have done exactly what the terrorists in Iran are doing. You would have had a state, Iraq, funding terrorists in other countries.

Colmes: All right, gentlemen, uh, I’d love to…

Horowitz: That’s what would have happened, if we hadn’t taken him down.

Colmes: David, we’ve got to move on. Gentlemen, we thank you both very very much.


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